inhorto
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Post by inhorto on Apr 28, 2020 20:58:39 GMT
Resolution on the Recognition of Foreign States Author: Joseph Yu (UCP)
Sponsors: GOVERNMENT
To establish as the right of the House of Representatives the power to formally recognize foreign nations and to establish formal diplomatic missions; and to recognize the disputed territories of Palestine and Kosovo
BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:
§1 - General- The House of Representatives shall have the authority to direct the Government of Banduria to extend or rescind recognition of any foreign entity provided a simply majority of members present and voting consent, but any resolution to effect the recognition or withdrawal of recognition of a foreign nation shall require the consent of the Cabinet of Banduria to be considered.
- Upon formal recognition of a nation, the Foreign Minister or equivalent shall, on the behalf of the Government, be responsible for directing the establishment of formal diplomatic relations between Banduria and the recognized party.
- The Foreign Minister or designated equivalent may, on behalf of the Government, establish for any purposes diplomatic missions to any recognized state or supranational organization for any such purposes as the Cabinet shall deem fit.
- The Ministry of Foreign Affairs, at the direction of the Foreign Minister, shall establish by-laws on the functions and staffing of embassies, consulates, or missions to foreign nations, and shall maintain the upkeep and security of Banduria's chancelleries.
- Members of foreign missions shall be appointed to their positions by the Foreign Minister or by a designated representative thereof, except for ambassadors to foreign states, who shall be appointed by the Prime Minister in accordance with the Government Establishment Act.
- The House of Representatives may, with a simple majority of members present and voting, close any such diplomatic missions as it shall see fit or abrogate any formal agreement with a foreign state.
The Government of Banduria is hereby directed to recognize the 193 sovereign voting members of the United Nations—including the State of Israel and the People's Republic of China—and the Holy See.
§2 - On the State of Palestine
- The Government of Banduria is hereby directed to recognize the State of Palestine as a sovereign state equal before the nations, and to recognize Ramallah as the rightful capital of the State of Palestine; the Foreign Minister is hereby directed to establish formal diplomatic relations with Palestine.
- The Government of Banduria is hereby directed to recognize the borders set forth and agreed to in the 1949 Armistice Agreements to be the lawful, enforceable demarcation between the Palestinian and Israeli State.
- Tel Aviv Yafo shall be considered for all intents and purposes the capital of the State of Israel; the embassy of the Republic of Banduria to the State of Israel shall be housed in Tel Aviv.
- The Government of Banduria is hereby directed to recognize Jerusalem as an international city under the stewardship of both parties but belonging in its entirety to no party.
- The House of Representatives condemns Government of Israel's policy of encroachment into Palestinian lands through the building of settlements deemed to be in violation of Article 3 of the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War (Fourth Geneva Convention).
- The Government of Banduria is hereby directed to recognize the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) as the rightful government of the State of Palestine, and to condemn Hamas as a terrorist group.
§3 - On the Republic of Kosovo- The Government of Banduria is hereby directed to recognize the Republic of Kosovo as a sovereign state equal before the nations, and to recognize the city of Pristina as the nation's rightful capital; the Foreign Minister is hereby directed to establish formal diplomatic relations with Kosovo.
- The Government of Banduria shall respect the current borders of the Republic of Kosovo as designated in 1945.
§4 - On the Island of Taiwan
- The Government of Banduria is hereby instructed to recognize the claims of the People's Republic of China on the island of Taiwan to be sovereign and legitimate.
- The Government of Banduria is directed to withdraw any diplomatic recognition of the Republic of China, henceforth Taiwan or Chinese Taipei as a sovereign state; the Government of Banduria shall not establish a formal embassy on the island of Taiwan.
- Nothing in this act shall be interpreted to preclude the establishment of an informal Bandurian diplomatic mission on the island of Taiwan, for such purposes as the Government of Banduria may ascribe.
- The Government of Banduria is hereby directed to express Bandurian disapproval of the forced internment of the Uyghur population of Xinjiang, the violent suppression of democracy protesters in Hong Kong, and militarization of the South China Sea to representatives of the People's Republic of China.
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agarn
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Post by agarn on Apr 28, 2020 21:07:15 GMT
PLO? You mean Fatah?
Also my char will sponsor if you remove the Jerusalem Israeli consulate thing.
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Atlantica
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Post by Atlantica on Apr 28, 2020 21:19:22 GMT
I agree with most of this bill's provisions - though I think that allowing an Israeli consulate in Jerusalem is a grave mistake - but I cannot in good conscience sponsor a bill that enables Morocco's continued oppression of the Sahrawi people by refusing to recognize the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. I would also urge recognition of the Republic of Somaliland's sovereignty, though this is less of a priority for me than the non-recognition of the SADR.
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inhorto
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Post by inhorto on Apr 29, 2020 0:24:25 GMT
PLO? You mean Fatah? Also my char will sponsor if you remove the Jerusalem Israeli consulate thing. No I mean the PLO - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Liberation_OrganizationFatah is only one party in the PLO. The Jerusalem consulate thing has been removed. Regarding the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, I do not support recognition. The SADR is limited in its recognition and ruled as a one-party state and has no clear territorial claim. This government would support efforts to mediate the conflict, however. |
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sarderia
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Post by sarderia on Apr 29, 2020 3:20:10 GMT
What would be the form of Bandurian deiplomatic representation in Formosa, since we do not officially recognizes the ROC?
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inhorto
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Post by inhorto on Apr 29, 2020 7:14:46 GMT
What would be the form of Bandurian deiplomatic representation in Formosa, since we do not officially recognizes the ROC? Any diplomatic links would be held through a consulate or a trade office/economic exchange that would be semi-independent of the embassy in Beijing. See here for what other countries do: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_diplomatic_missions_in_Taiwan#Representative_and_Trade_Offices. It would be up to the Foreign Minister to pursue the actions that s/he would see fit. |
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Vedastia
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Post by Vedastia on Apr 29, 2020 7:19:56 GMT
What would be the form of Bandurian deiplomatic representation in Formosa, since we do not officially recognizes the ROC? Likely a "Trade Office" or something like that. |
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eastmeranopirus
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Post by eastmeranopirus on Apr 29, 2020 7:56:26 GMT
The island of Taiwan should be addressed by its native name, not the name given by colonists.
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inhorto
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Post by inhorto on Apr 29, 2020 17:28:56 GMT
The island of Taiwan should be addressed by its native name, not the name given by colonists. Fair point. Done. |
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puertollano
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Post by puertollano on Apr 29, 2020 21:37:48 GMT
Sponsor (Lao-Tzu Lu - RPP)
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saonovaeuropa
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Post by saonovaeuropa on Apr 29, 2020 23:17:21 GMT
I cannot in good faith support a bill that would withdraw our diplomatic recognition of the Republic of China. We must stand by the Republic of China, a bastion of liberal democracy and human rights. We cannot succumb to the will of the authoritarian Chinese communist regime.
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Post by novaanglicana on May 1, 2020 14:54:55 GMT
Sponsor, Rutger de Vries-Lau (UCP)
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martune
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Post by martune on May 2, 2020 6:23:02 GMT
I won't be voting for a condemnation of Israel.
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inhorto
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Post by inhorto on May 2, 2020 7:09:42 GMT
I cannot in good faith support a bill that would withdraw our diplomatic recognition of the Republic of China. We must stand by the Republic of China, a bastion of liberal democracy and human rights. We cannot succumb to the will of the authoritarian Chinese communist regime. I empathize with this viewpoint emphatically, but the reality is that, if we want economic prosperity, we have to recognize the PRC. Not only is it international precedent, but since we are so close to China's backyard, openly flouting the PRC is dangerous to Banduria's national security. Recognizing the PRC, although not really pretty, is the right thing to do in terms growing the economy. We should keep the door open to trading with the Mainland, which would be very difficult if we refuse to recognize the PRC unfortunately. I think formally recognizing the PRC but maintaining informal relations is the best option. We can get the best of both words: trading/relations with Taiwan on an informal level while appeasing the PRC and not risking our national security. I won't be voting for a condemnation of Israel. Even for illegal settlements? |
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Post by martune on May 2, 2020 7:35:24 GMT
I won't be voting for a condemnation of Israel. Even for illegal settlements? No I'm afraid not. |
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inhorto
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Post by inhorto on May 2, 2020 18:22:12 GMT
Even for illegal settlements? No I'm afraid not. Would you be okay with this instead of what there is right now: The House of Representatives urges the Government of Israel to review its policy of encroachment into Palestinian lands through the building of settlements deemed to be in violation of Article 3 of the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War (Fourth Geneva Convention). |
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martune
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Post by martune on May 3, 2020 5:11:05 GMT
Would you be okay with this instead of what there is right now: The House of Representatives urges the Government of Israel to review its policy of encroachment into Palestinian lands through the building of settlements deemed to be in violation of Article 3 of the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War (Fourth Geneva Convention). Yes it sounds a lot better. |
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merni
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Post by merni on May 3, 2020 12:08:15 GMT
"Sponsors: GOVERNMENT"
Per the rules of procedure, a government bill also needs 5 sponsors like any other bill.
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yaruqo
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Post by yaruqo on May 3, 2020 17:21:31 GMT
I, too, must withhold my support from this bill, for the same reason that my esteemed colleague, the Honorable Yang Kang, has cited. If pragmatism is the goal of this government, surely we should see that even if we do favor Beijing over the ROC in Taipei, the government in Beijing will still do everything it can to undermine our national security and regional interests. After all, they still construct their own islands throughout the South China Sea to further their own territorial and hegemonic ambitions, in violation of several international agreements and territorial waters, I might add. We would be better served standing with the Republic of China and encouraging a strong, regional counterweight to Beijing's influence.
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inhorto
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Post by inhorto on May 3, 2020 17:56:51 GMT
"Sponsors: GOVERNMENT" Per the rules of procedure, a government bill also needs 5 sponsors like any other bill. It did have five sponsors. I've just marked it as a government bill. I'm basing that off of precedent in Elizia. I should mention that, IIRC, government bills in previous iterations did not require sponsors. I'll defer to your judgement and we can bring it to the chair if it requires it. I, too, must withhold my support from this bill, for the same reason that my esteemed colleague, the Honorable Yang Kang, has cited. If pragmatism is the goal of this government, surely we should see that even if we do favor Beijing over the ROC in Taipei, the government in Beijing will still do everything it can to undermine our national security and regional interests. After all, they still construct their own islands throughout the South China Sea to further their own territorial and hegemonic ambitions, in violation of several international agreements and territorial waters, I might add. We would be better served standing with the Republic of China and encouraging a strong, regional counterweight to Beijing's influence. I sympathize with the cause of democracy in Taiwan, but quite simply recognizing Taiwan's sovereignty under the one-China policy is ill-advised at best and dangerous at worst. I would encourage you to look at our neighbors within a thousand mile radius. None of them recognize Taiwan's sovereignty lest it bring China's ire. Like you, I dislike the CCP very much, but recognizing Taiwan risks cutting off all trade with the mainland, which would cripple our economy. Recognizing the PRC is simply a political reality that we must accept if we want to exist. I think a good balance would be officially recognizing the PRC whilst maintaining informal but strong relations with the ROC in Tapei. I believe that appeases both parties. |
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